After your group has completed the in-class discussion questions on the readings from Gandhi, have the chosen Editor post your collective answers and reactions below. As with the previous assignement, be sure to include a list of roles performed. (Due 2/27)
GROUP NAME: P.E.A.C.E
ReplyDeleteEditor-Malika Alami-Binani
Scribe- Sandy Rose
Researcher- Sheri-Ann Serb
Speaker- Ibrahmin Zbib
1A) Doctrine of the Sword- Page 98- " I do believe that where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he thought he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use."
Passage Significance- Strength and Forgiveness
1B)- Non Violence-Page 102-" That non-violence which only an individual can use is not of much use in terms of society."
Passage Significance- Non-Violence and Politics.
1C)- Problems of Non-Violence-page 107-" Violence which is inevitable does not therefore cease to do so and become no-violence. It has to be recognized as violence."
Passage Significance- The actual significance of Non-Violence.
1D)- Is non-violence impossible-page 119-" Mutual respect to that extent is essential for progress. By crediting our companion with independent judgement, we strengthen them and make it easy for them to be independent minded."
Passage Significance- Duty and appreciation to acts of non-violence.
1E)- Non-cooperation-page 135- "But my purpose at present in calling for a boycott of the schools is different; I want to show the government that by rendering the schools idle that so long as justice is not done in regard to the Punjab and the Khilafat, cooperation with is is distasteful."
Passage significance- showing non-cooperation positives and negatives
1F)- Civil Disobedience-page 143- " i can clearly see the time coming to me when I must refuse obedience to every single state made law, even though there may be certainty of bloodshed. when neglect of the call means denial of god, civil disobedience become pereptony duty."
Passage Significance- The truth behind civil disobedience
2)- According to our group's impressions gained while reading the writing and thoughts of Ghandi, we argued that his strategies and ways of thinking and producing were straight up idealist. We felt this way because, his strategies were based on non-violence means and approaches of justice. It many senses, his ways of thinking were extremely practical. For this, we regard him as an idealist in society.
3)- Ghandi tends to use major cultural words throughout his writing including, " Punjab" and "Khilafat." His ways of writing convert very well into politics based on his ways of reasoning and thinking.
4)- To be a certain character, one must properly prep themselves to be an obedient character and individual in society. That obedient person must then obtain the proper skills and the correct way of thinking to be able to have, "swaraj" and properly govern somewhere or someplace at any given time whether it be now or in the future. Ghandi is trying to showcase his ideas of western civilization. His main goal was to promote his views on truth and non-violence. By reading his thoughts, it shows the world about his main goal of non-violence and how it could help the world and society and influence positive long -lasting changes.
5)- The difference between non-violence and civil disobedience is that non-violence is staying away from creating a menace or any type of trouble with the law in society; whereas civil disobedience is the act of refusing to follow any laws.
6)- We personally believe that utilizing a combination of violence and non-violence is the best and correct way in regards to obtaining lasting social, political, and cultural change. Together, we feel that there should be exceptions however. Using violence and non-violence go hand in hand and without one another the world we be equally corrupted.
GROUP NAME: The "A" Team
ReplyDeleteEditor-Oishi Nada
Scribe- Stephanie Jerome-Pierre
Researcher- Oishi/Stephanie/Melanie
Speaker- Melanie Raghunath
1 a) Doctorine of the Sword- “Forgiveness is more manly than punishment” (98).
It is better to forgive than punish to show the greater side of a person.
b) Non-violence- “Satisfaction lies in the effort, not in the attainment”(103).
If someone gets an undeserved victory, it does not bring the full pleasure as it will with hard work.
c) Problems of Non-violence- “Non-violence implies love, compassion, forgiveness” (107).
Love, compassion and forgiveness are characteristics of non violence.
d) Is Non-violence Impossible- “Himsa does not need to be taught. Man as animal is violent, but as spirit is non-violent” (120).
As human we are violent, but we still have a non violent mind.
e) non co-operation- " I am convinced, however, that we would win if the whole nation joins in boycottting legislatures (134)"
This quote goes with non co-operation because it shows the refusal to cooperate with the government and it is using the boycotting method which is a non-violent approach.
f) "They knew that we were as harmless as we were determined (142)"
"Our triump consists again in being imprisoned for no wrong whatsoever. The greater our innocence , the greater our strength and the swifter our victory (142)"
"Disobedience to be civil has to be open and non-violent (143)"
These quotes prove that Gandhi did not have any intension of wrongful doing and simply praised non - violence as the answer to government laws that were unfair (British laws that were not accepted in India).
2. We think he is more idealist. He prefers non violence, but in certain situation violence is non avoidable.
3. Gandhi chose simple yet meaningful words to elaborate on his beliefs. An example is the word "manly" (98) when describing forgiveness, meaning that forgiveness is more mature and has more self control than punishment.
4. Non-violence, obedience, and swaraj are connected because in order to have non-violence there must be obedience and swaraj such as rules to be followed, self control and enforcement. There cannot be a person with more power, it must be equally divided. In the text he says “A programme of non- violence for the attainment of swaraji necessarily means ability to conduct our affairs on non violent lines. That means inculcation of a spirit of obedience.” I think ideological space Ghandi is trying to create is the space between non-violence from violence. He tries to show that with non-violence you don’t have to be sting but truthful and violence is intended to harm.
5. Non violence is not engaging in any sort of violent activity at all. Non-cooperation is withdrawing himself and shows the disobedience. And Civil disobedience is refusing to follow rules and regulations.
6. As a group we belong to non violence camp, because we think violence leads to another violent event. It is a never ending cycle. Non violence is rational and logical way to deal with an unwanted situation.
GROUP NAME: Roller Blading Amish Kids
ReplyDeleteCatherine:Speaker
Rosemary:Scibe
Chris: Editor
Krystal:Researcher
1.Violence which is inevitable does not therefore cease to be so and become non-violence but is recognized as violence. Anyone who reframes from violence because he is afraid is neverthelss guilty of violence. Non-violence implies love, compassion, and forgivness. pg 107
Non-violence doesnt cause harm, everything is peaceful.
2.We came to a conclusion that he is more of an idealist because of what and how he is able to focus on each significant meaning like non-violence with the use of his own ideas and how he is able to back them up, even though he prefers non violence.
3.Gandhi's meaningful words was always used to focus and explain on beliefs. An example is the word "manly" (98) He describes words with his own terms like "manly which means forgivness.
4.Non-violence, obedience, and swaraj are the concepts that gandi use's for his ideological space to create the fact that they are all connected. You cant have one with out the other because they share a type of connection that makes the 3 concepts true facts of what gandi is trying to say.
5.Non-violence is when you dont copperate in the violence. non cooperation is when you dont associate yourself with what could lead to violence that would lead to goverments situations like things that deal with money. Civil disobedience is when you break the civil rights that had been handed to you.
6.The camp that we chose to belong to was non-violence because with violence you cant gain someones respect or trust, your putting their safty in danger to get what you want out of them.
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ReplyDeleteEditor Daniel
Speaker Luis
Scribe Moises
Researcher Matt
1)
A) “And so I am not pleading India to practice non-violence because it is weak […] and power” (100). This passage describes how non-violence is not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength.
B) “No one is entitled to infer from this that the path will be continuous carpet of roses without thorns” (102). Shows that the philosophy is not perfect and much work is needed in order to acquire true non-violence.
c) “Non-violence implies love, compassion, forgiveness” (107). This is all that is needed to create a great society.
D) “If we turn our eyes to the time of which history has any record down to our own time, we shall find that man has been steadily progressing towards ahimsa. […] lower species have disappeared”(119-120) Shows that humans are evolving and step by step we are working towards more peaceful solutions to conflicts
E) “A king cannot govern at all if he is not able to carry any section of his subjects with him” (134). If we as a whole do not give into what the hierarchy demands than that power loses all power.
F) “It must be the calmness of strength not weakness of knowledge not ignorance” (142). Do not mistake civil disobedience with total anarchy
2) His ideals are idealistic, even though most conflicts can be resolved diplomatically, humans are extremely vengeful and these urges can only be satisfied with bloodshed.
3) Gandhi uses carefully placed polite rhetoric so not to insult anybody but at the same time inspire people to see his ideals
4) They are connected because once u obtain swaraj then you are able to become nonviolent and obedient to the truth. Gandhi is trying to create a non-violent atmosphere where everyone is equal
5) Non-violence is refusing to take up arms and being peaceful. Non-cooperation is refraining from doing anything that is beneficial to the government. Civil Disobedience is refusing to follows the government’s rules or regulations
6) Non-Violence. With non-violence as a foundation it can set an example for a glorious cultural change that will be both influential and inspiring.
Group Enthusiastic Banana Pepper Frisbees
ReplyDelete1.A) “But I believe that non-violence is infinitely superior to violence, forgiveness is more manly than punishment.” (p. 98) It takes a certain personality to forgive and not punish. It shows a sign of peace and a particular protest against violence.
B) “Our non-violence need not be of the strong, but it has to be of the truthful.” (p. 104) Honesty is what keeps people from violence. You don’t have to be strong to be non-violent, you have to be honest and truthful.
C) “A right angle is the same […] of all religions.” (p. 108) Religions are advocating peace and non-violence and it’s considered the right angle. It is the standard, from which other actions should be measured.
D) “happiest are those that plunge in the fire. The lookers-on are all but scorched by flames.” This was credited to Pritam, a poet. This quote is important because it puts into perspective our actions. If we choose to be a part of non-violence, it is an arduous rode; if we do not choose to be a part of it, we just watch the bright light of it all and are hurt from not being a part of it ourselves.
E) “I do not expect to be able to convince readers all at once. I shall take up these subjects time and again and place my arguments before the public.” This made his cause very realistic. It wasn’t going to happen overnight and he told us outright. It was like the essence of his non-violence policies; he wouldn’t force anything, he would just be there peacefully and let us make our decision and change.
F) “complete civil disobedience is a state of peaceful rebellion.” It makes civil disobedience sound extremely powerful. It puts into place the idea that it is not a form of weak protest, but an extremely powerful and intimidating one.
2. We believe that Gandhi is an idealist as well as realist in his calls for social and cultural reform.
3. Gandhi uses words that are contradicting and yet defining in what they mean. He tries to cover all aspects that way all perspectives are covered to prove that his argument is valid.
4. To conduct our affairs on non-violent lines (p. 105). “Swaraj by non-violence must be a progressively peaceful revolution […] well-nurtured tree.” (p. 105)
5. We are in the camp of non-violence because non-violence keeps people civilized and open-minded. When people are angry they are fighting with a closed mind and a closed heart. Once people calm down, they’re minds as well as their hearts open and they’re much able to listen and cooperate in a peaceful manner.
6. I believe lasting social, political and cultural change comes from non-violence. I do believe that it is a lot less common though. For people to change, they cannot be forced. If they are forced through violence, they will just continue when the threat of violence is gone.
Group Name: FYI
ReplyDeletescribe: Chrystal
Editor: Kenny
researcher: Marissa
speaker: Karen
A)Doctrine of the sword
"I do believe that where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence I would choice advise violence"(98)
Gandhi believe non-violence is better than violence but if he have to choose between being a coward or violence he would choose violence in-order to defend himself.
B) Non-violence
"satisfaction lies in the effort, not in attainment" (103)
satisfaction is putting a lot of effort into whatever your doing and you will get the full benefit from the effort you put into it. There is no satisfaction in getting from others.
C) Problems of Non-violence
"Non-violence implies love,compassion, forgiveness"
" The shastras describe these as the virtues of the brave"(107)
virtues is to love,forgive and show compassion in-order to avoid violence. Bravery means to be non-violence.
D) Is non-violence Impossible
"If we turn our eyes to time of which...progressing towards ahimsa(119)
Gandhi believe during history man is cutting back on violence.
"man as animal is violent, but as spirit is non-violent"(120)
Gandhi compare man to an animal. man only become violent to defend themselves or defend what they believe-in.
E) Non-Co-operation
"A King cannot govern at all if he is not able to carry any section of his subjects with him(134)
a king need to have followers to abide by his rules.
F) Civil Disobedience
" Mass civil disobedience maybe and often is selfish in the sense that individuals expect personal gain from their disobedience" (142)
People disobey usually do it for selfish reasons without thinking about how it will affected everybody else.
2) Gandhi is an Idealist.He states it throughout the reading. quote from page 119 ".If we turn our eyes to the time which... man has been steadily progressing towards ahimsa"
3) Gandhi speaks as if it is an autographs. Some of his sentences are poetic.
4) Non-violence, obedience and swaraj all deals with civilized behaviors of human.
5) civil disobedience and non-cooperation means refusal to obey the law. Non-violence is rejection of violence in favor of peaceful tactics.
6) My group choose non-violence to be the best means to obtaining lasting social,political,and cultural change. violence only become more violence but if we have to choose between a coward or violence then we would choose violence to defend ourselves.